We're talking all about inclusion on today's episode! Senior game designer and lead designer of the Player's Handbook Jeremy Crawford covers co-hosting duties for Shelly, and talks about being recognized for contributing an outstanding voice for bringing in LGBTQ characters to D&D by the Puget Sound Business Journal. Later in Lore You Should Know, Adam Lee returns to talk all about Hell Riders. Finally, Greg interviews Alice Cleaver from Scratticus Academy about their work in providing a safe place for all players to feel welcomed into the game we love. If you're looking for ways to make more room for players at your table, this is the episode for you!
Dragon Talk with Alice Cleaver
Dragon Talk - 06/13/2019
Podcast/Notes
Here’s a guide to when each segment on the podcast begins:
00:00: Intro with Jeremy Crawford and Shelly Mazzanoble
18:26: Lore You Should Know with Adam Lee
51:25: Interview with Alice Cleaver
1:43:18: Outro with Jeremy Crawford and Shelly Mazzanoble
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About the Guest:

Alice Cleaver
Alice Cleaver is the Headmistress of the Scratticus Academy. She runs games for the more advanced players in the Academy with cyberpunk and high fantasy themes. She has a strong horror influence that penetrates all her games. The Academy is all about building confidence and promoting new players. They are an entry way into D&D for the viewer who wants to play. Totally safe, totally inclusive.
Your Podcast Hosts

Greg Tito
Greg Tito has had weird and long career as an Off Broadway stage manager, a playwright, a theater carpenter, a secretary, an RPG designer, a games journalist, and now a PR/Marketing person. He has loved Dungeons & Dragons ever since 1985 when he found an old copy of the AD&D Dungeon Master’s Guide on his brother’s bookshelf and he honed that love of fantasy storytelling in the dark streets of Sasserine by way of the Upper West Side gaming group he joined in 2004. He moved his family (wife + two young kids) to Seattle in 2015 to work on D&D and he’s never looked back.
- Twitter:@Gregtito

Shelly Mazzanoble
Shelly Mazzanoble will always play a magic-user. There. She said it. Enough pretending to want to break out of her comfort zone. She’s a magic-user. She’s also the brand lead for Avalon Hill and loves talking about that one time she played Diplomacy and SOMEONE (okay, it was Ben Petrisor) stabbed her in the back and took over her beloved Russia. If you enjoy tales of sorcery, board game upheavals, and reasons her 3 year-old is crying (HINT: She tried to make him eat a Nutella crepe), find Shelly on Twitter and Facebook.
- Facebook:shellymazzanoblewriter
- Twitter:@shellymoo